The contemporary world is a complicated place to be especially if you think you had it all planned out but it turns out pieces of your reality are not adding up.

What you can do to navigate this uncharted waters called life is to feel your truth and find your purpose. This way, no matter what, even if you fall down, those pains and discomforts will be your guiding lighthouse and not your storms to battle. They will lead you to a better place, a better understanding of why you’re here, and what you can become and that is being true to your soul purpose.

This episode is simply divine with Heather and guest Jessica Huie as they discuss all about the reflections and realizations as we go through life, the traumas and how they positively shape a person, soul-hitting experiences, and the essence of having our own truth and purpose as we journey through.

Jessica is the author of Purpose: Find Your Truth and Embrace Your Calling, a book in which she shares her journey to finding purpose. She helps you share their message, breathe life into your purpose-driven projects and gifts, and share them with the world through transformational visibility. She spent twenty years working in media as a publicist, speaker, entrepreneur, mother, and author. In 2014, she was honored with a Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE) for entrepreneurship and her contribution to diversity by Queen Elizabeth at Buckingham Palace. She has been named one of Britain’s most inspiring entrepreneurs and one of the UK’s most influential women.

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Soul Stirring Quotes:

“One of the things that was a really beautiful discovery was how many gifts and how much beauty are in pain.”

“That’s what feeling does for us. Even if it’s uncomfortable, it puts us back into connection with ourself.”

“That thing about an experience being traumatic and equally beautiful, that really is life, isn’t it? That’s the paradox of life.”

“Reality is so much stranger than fiction.”

“Often our own plan for our life is a distraction from who we are truly here to be.”

Heather Alice: Welcome to another episode of the Intuitive Podcast. I am so excited to have Jessica Huie with us on the show today. She is a master and a queen of all things, walking in her purpose and your purpose. She’s got a new book out. We’re gonna talk about that on the show today. So I’m gonna tell you a little bit about Jessica and then we’re going to introduce her and you can hear from her here on the show today.

So Jessica is the author of “Purpose: Find Your Truth and Embrace Your Calling”. It’s a book which in which she shares her personal journey of finding her purpose and her business. And what she’s up to in the world is helping you share your message, breathe life into your purpose-driven projects and gifts, and share them with the world through transformational visibility which is something we talk on the show about all the time. She spent 20 years working at in media as a publicist, a speaker, an entrepreneur, she’s a mama, and an author.

And in 2014, she was honored with a member of the order of the British empire. Okay. As Americans, as Americans feel that’s so, what is the word you guys use posh? Very, very posh. For, she was recognized for entrepreneurship and her contribution to diversity by Queen Elizabeth at Buckingham Palace. And she has been named one of Britain’s most inspiring entrepreneurs and one of UK’s most influential women. Jessica, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for being here.

Jessica: Thanks for having me. It’s quite a very grandiose intro.

Heather Alice: Yes. We’ll walk in that ’cause it’s all true, right? Yeah, it feels good. So I was thinking, let’s begin with your book. Now, I have to admit that in preparing for this interview, I was on your website and looking at your beautifully curated Instagram.

And I have to admit I’m like fangirling a little bit because your book looks absolutely incredible. And it’s really on a subject that’s near and dear to my heart which is helping people walk in their purpose. So let’s maybe start there and talk to us a little bit about what inspired you to write this book either from your own personal life or your business perspective in the clients that you’re helping. How did this come to you and, you know, become something that you wanted to help others with?

Jessica: Do you know what? It was completely unplanned. It was really prob- it was kind of the first or the second big thing that I ever did without an agenda.

Heather Alice: Mm.

Jessica: And it, so that was, I had, I kind of like, many of us had said maybe one day I’ll write a book, but it certainly was about, it wasn’t about purpose, you know, it would. And the book really evolved out of a time in my life where I wasn’t thinking, I was feeling.

Heather Alice: Mm-hmm.

Jessica: For the first time, you know what wasn’t in the bio just to give sort of some context is, you know, I became a mom very young. I was 17. My baby. My biggest baby is 23 years old now. And then I had quite a lot of, you know, dysfunction growing up and my response to it was to overachieve, you know, like so many of us, we can be really driven to compensate for that feeling of lack that’s there. And so I worked and worked and worked and achieved lots of things and was constantly doing.

And then when my dad was diagnosed with terminal cancer in 2016, it was the first time I’d really been present.

Heather Alice: Mm.

Jessica: You know, I got present. And from that space, you know, grief is a really powerful catalyst to bringing new in back in contact with what’s real.

Heather Alice: Yes.

Jessica: And that was the space I was in, which was com- as I said, completely a space of feeling rather than thinking.

And I just started to write and, you know, three days before my dad passed on, I was, it was like three o’clock in the morning. A carer was watching him, you know, he was sort of unconscious by that point. And it’s this unearthly kind of space between life and death. You know, my, this person, I love so much.

 And so I was really broken open by grief and picked up a pen in the back of an envelope, not thinking about a book or anything. And what flowed onto the piece of onto the back of the envelope was the start of the book purpose.

Heather Alice: Mm. I love how you said two things really are, you know, being sparked for me the first is that it’s the grief. Sometimes it’s the shadow side that doesn’t feel comfortable that puts us on the path of our purpose. And that you were feeling, you were feeling not thinking. And that is what helped you find your purpose because I think most people listening to this show know they, we accept the fact that we have a purpose.

We know that we’re called, but it’s quite something different to start walking the path. Right. And I think you’re nailing it, which is, you cannot think it, you can’t figure it out. It’s something that you have to feel. So, from your perspective, what do you feel like gets in the way of the not the going into the feeling and your work with people, like what is it that’s really stopping us from letting ourselves feel those feelings so that we can step and walk in our purpose?

Jessica: Discomfort. I think we are sort of raised and conditioned to avoid discomfort at, you know, beyond all else. And actually, it’s really important that we are okay or we learn to be uncomfortable and okay with being uncomfortable, without judging it or wanting to numb it or push it away because, you know, as you put so beautifully, it’s like my experience, what I learned, I learned so much in caring for my dad. I learned so much.

But one of the things that was a really beautiful discovery was how many gifts and how much beauty are in pain, like that they are one in the same. And it’s only in really being able, you know, I look back and I recognize that in being able to lean into my grief, cuz I sort of watch the way different family members, you know, it can be so painful to lose somebody. And so we all deal with that differently, but when we can kind of be with it and not, it also allowed this, this beautiful, connection really.

That’s what it is a connection to my father beyond him as a father. And why that’s relevant is that’s what feeling does for us. Even if it’s uncomfortable, it puts us back into connection with ourself. And from that space of connection, we start to feel and become open to that kind of innate guidance system that is always there for us, that so we’re disconnected to, and it’s that guidance system that lets us know it’s our sort of, it gives us the it’s the, the flashlight and the lighthouse to guide us toward who we are here to be and what our calling is.

Heather Alice: Mm. So pain can break us open and I think we tend to think that when we’re experiencing pain, there’s something quote, unquote, wrong, right? Ooh, there must be something wrong because this is uncomfortable or that, or I’m grieving or I feel lost, but I love what you’re saying. You’re saying no, it’s a part of the process and it can actually be a massive tool of transformation if you’re willing to feel it.

Jessica: Yes.

Heather Alice: Yeah. If you’re willing to feel it.

So I was telling you, before we started recording that there are no mistakes, synchronicity of bounds, right? We are all connected through this crazy thread. And, as I was preparing for this episode, I was just on a call with my coach and I was in tears talking about the passing of my father.

And then I was like, oh my God, this can’t be a mistake that, you know, here we are talking about being a caretaker. I was laughing telling my coach that I started writing. I don’t wanna call it a poem, but kind of a poem, called I fed death a Turkey sandwich, because when my father was passing, I was the only person that he couldn’t feed himself. And I was the only person that he would let help him. And I remember hand feeding him for some reason that stands out in my mind, you know, hand feeding him a Turkey sandwich, right. To try to, you know, as he was transitioning.

And so I bring this up to ask you this question. It’s one of the most beautiful memories I have of my father and the relationship I have with him. And it’s also one of the most traumatic, and I can’t decide as I look back on this memory. And I guess it’s both, that when we have those really profound experiences that do crack us open and there’s no thinking, right, there’s no, there’s none of that. The mind goes completely offline. This is hitting us at a soul level.

Could you speak to the dichotomy I think that happens in those moments because I notice within myself that I can either choose to see this as something beautiful or I can choose to see it as something traumatic. And what I think is I think that both are true and it’s how we choose to see it. And maybe, maybe what’s happening right now for us is we’re getting tripped up because we don’t, we’re not understanding maybe that we can choose to see it one way or the other, or see it as both and still move forward.

So could you speak to that maybe in some of your experiences that you had, you mentioned that you were a mother at a very early age. Man, I bet there’s a backstory to that. So, yeah. Yeah. So can you speak maybe to that, like, you know, our pain is the lighthouse, how can we be in contact with it, but not let it devastate us or stop us or, you know, let it stop us dead in our tracks, I guess if that makes any sense.

Jessica: Yeah. Thank you for the question and for sharing that experience as well. I have a sort of parallel one with ice cream.

Heather Alice: oh, really?

Jessica: Sorbet actually. Sorbet. Yeah. You know what, there’s the perspective piece we get to choose.

Heather Alice: Hmm.

Jessica: And I think for me, one of the things that has become sort of shifted from being an intellectual belief into a deep knowing is that everything occurs for us, like everything, all of our experiences. And you know, you talk about the backstory of being, you know, a teenage mom, you know, there is, and it’s all in the book because you know, the contrast that I’ve experienced in my life are really pretty significant, you know,

Heather Alice: Mm-hmm.

Jessica: of working with superstars and flying on private jets to, you know, being expelled from school at 15, getting pregnant at 17, having nowhere to live, no money, and then all the whole piece in the middle.

And I think it’s been a real gift on so many levels to have experienced that contrast. And a lot of who it’s made me, all of it actually comes into play in my work here today in the world and the same applies for all of us.

Heather Alice: Right.

Jessica: And so, again, going back to your point about the way that we judge discomfort is wrong. My goodness, the relief. Now it doesn’t mean that we don’t ex- I don’t experience pain or discomfort, but just in knowing that actually this is an opportunity for me to there’s there are gifts in this, whatever it may be. And I think that just makes life easier.

Heather Alice: Mm-hmm.

Jessica: It brings in some relief and a recognition that everything is a cycle and this too shall pass and it can’t be joyous all the time. And also that thing about an experience being traumatic and equally beautiful, that really is life, isn’t it? That’s the paradox of life. Like it’s all of it. And it’s almost, you know, we, when, where we really start to drop into who we truly are below, beyond the body and, you know, the role on our business card and all of the stuff and what we do, what we have, or don’t have, where we truly start to drop into that truth is where we are moving into that space of integrating and loving and acknowledging and owning all the parts of ourself and the polarities that exist within us. Right. As you put the shadow and the beauty, you know, all of it. So I dunno if that answers the question.

Heather Alice: Yeah.

Jessica: Yeah. That is, that’s who we are. Yeah, it’s all who we are and it’s all life. And, there’s a piece in finding peace with that.

Heather Alice: Mm-hmm.

Jessica: And it’s like the resistance ends and the battle ends. And we get to flow. We get to start to flow with and have moments move through us rather than constantly trying to control them, which is physical.

Heather Alice: Yeah. I love that. And I think that it’s, that is an indicator, I think of a purpose, walking in your purpose and having a purpose-led life that you really can’t effort. You really can’t effort your way into it. And we live in such a cognitive-based world, right? We’ve never had more, at least here in Western, you know, cultures, more physical luxury. Right.

We’re over fed. We’re over, we’re over everything. We’re over fed. We’re overworked. And yet we’re starving for meaning. We’re starving for connection. We are starving for purpose in our lives, something bigger and beyond ourselves. And so I think the gift in what your father’s passing gave you. And what my father’s passing gave me and, you know, for our listeners, think of the person you love in you’re life.

What have you lost that left you devastated, you know, to see that as something that can put us in contact with. What we’re here to do is the gift. And that can be that catalyst. If I think we recognize it as that and stop seeing it as, oh my God, this terrible thing happened to me. Like you said, everything happens for, it happens for us.

So you mentioned that you have, have you ever heard someone say I’ve been poor, I’ve been rich. Believe me, I like being rich. I have a mentor that says that all the time. And so when you were talking about, you know, 17, you didn’t have a place to live fast forward to, I know you had a PR agency. R ight now you do visibility work. I saw you have a retreat coming up in Jamaica.

You’re just setting and doing incredible things. Can you speak to us about what it was like for you as a mother to get your life back on track and make those decisions right. To transform yourself, to be a person who is recognized by the fricking Queen of England, that’s like top that’s like top, top star stuff.

Okay. So walk us through that process, right? Because it’s one thing to say, live your purpose. It’s another to say, okay, here’s where I was. And this is what I did and what I faced and how I pulled myself out of that to create the life that I have now. Right. Or truly exemplifying what it is to walk that path.

Do you have any? Does that spark any stories in you or anything you would like to share on what that transformation was like for you?

Jessica: So a couple of things. I think so many stories, so many stories. I hope people will get the book.

Heather Alice: We’ll have show notes and everything for people to buy. Yep. It’s available on Amazon. Yep. But we’ll have that linked. Yeah.

Jessica: So many, but you know what, if I, if you asked me there’s a couple of things that were game changing.

One was really being seen and it’s no coincidence that my work now is a lot of it is around well, it’s really around coming to truly see ourself. For me, the most powerful visibility is not about, you know, getting ourself out there, though that can be a very natural progression when we are, you know, when we really like, okay, this is who I’m here to be, you wanna serve, and you want to impact, so the visibility tool is really useful.

But actually where what’s game changing is where we really come to see, you know, who we really are. And there was this, I was about 18 by this point, my baby mono was probably a few months old. I probably had postnatal depression.

Heather Alice: Mm.

Jessica: You know, when you are that age, you don’t have, you’re in survivor mode. You don’t have any, you know, there’s no time for diagnoses. You’re just depressed,

Heather Alice: Right? Yeah.

Jessica: Luxury, you know, and, this health visitor, like a nurse came over to visit me and check how everything was going. And I said, I’m just so, I’m just sad all the time. I’m crying all the time. It’s hard to get up.

The baby’s not sleeping. You know, I had no routine. I had no life skills. And she said, why don’t you think about going back to school? And she was the first person that had said that that might be a possibility. And I don’t know, you know, what it was about me or what she saw, but I was very much kind of written off other people’s perceptions were that, you know, I’d got pregnant.

I had no qualifications. My academia was over and this was really gonna be my existence. And you know, that’s other people’s limiting beliefs. Right. But this woman gave me permission in that moment to go back. And I did, and that was the start of the, you know, I went back to college and, you know, suddenly it was like, oh, I can do this as an evening class.

And it was hard. And it was a juggle of, you know, working in a shoe shop to make money for the nursery. And I was exhausted and wanted to drop out lots of times, but didn’t, and that first step, you know, on that path was like, oh, actually that I can also go to university. And then it was like I’ll be a journalist. I’ll fight around the world interviewing superstars, you know, suddenly a million miles away from my reality.

And the beauty of this story is that I get to tell is that that’s exactly what occurred, you know, from that moment, I think it was about three years later that I was sitting in a penthouse in Manhattan. That’s three in the morning interviewing Mariah Carey for the cover of a magazine in London. And my life has been full of those moments because dreaming, you know, often when we have trauma as a kid and our feelings have been so suppressed, we dissociate through and for me, I lived in, I had this wonderful imagination, which had also been cultivated by my mom and, you know, reading with me as a child, but dreaming has served me greatly.

Heather Alice: Mm-hmm.

Jessica: Dreaming, even when it seems completely unrealistic. And so, I also get to give that to the people that I, you know, to my community now and say, you know, throw out the ideas of what’s realistic because we have magic in our toolkit that we often don’t draw on. Right?

Heather Alice: Yeah. Oh, I love it. It’s like that woman saw in you a potential of what is possible for you and what a gift. Oh my God. It’s so moving because how many times in our lives, if we had someone reflect that for us, and then also that is our invitation to become that for another person. And so visibility, I think, you know, often, sometimes the shallow interpretation. I love how you teased out that out.

Visibility is not about, look at me, look at me. I’ve got a hundred thousand Instagram followers. It is not what it’s about. It is about showing up in the world so that you can be a force that is able to be a proper mirror for others. It’s so much bigger. Again, it’s back to that. It’s so much bigger. than you. So, imagine had she not reflected that to you at such a tender age, you know, your entire life changed because of one simple reflection and suggestion that maybe this could be possible for you? I think that’s profound, right?

The inverse of this could be let’s look at our lives at those pivotal moments where we didn’t have a mentor step in and say that.

Jessica: Mm-hmm.

Heather Alice: And because of that, we believed some other false narrative and lie. Which brings me to another question I wanna ask about, I think you, you talk in the book about these limiting paradigms, societal expectations, particularly as a woman, you know, you mentioned, Ugh, Jessica’s 17 with a baby and a mother, she’s written off. Yeah. She’s not gonna, she’s gonna work in a shoe shop for the rest of her life. How can we begin to, I don’t know if I wanna say rewrite those narratives, reject those narratives, embrace a new narrative. How do we get out of this paradigm that we are in that is telling us to say small? How can a person begin doing that?

Jessica: I think environment is really, is really key. You know, like powerfully choosing our environment in a really deliberate way. And that’s, you know, so the conversations that we are having, what we are consuming, all of those things impact the frequency that we’re operating at and, you know, inadvertently let us know what’s possible.

 And so, yeah. Who are we? Who are we spending time with? What are we watching? And that includes ourself. I think, you know, for me, the most important part of my, well, they’re all important, but a part I can’t do without of my morning practice or just my practice is journaling. You know, I really get to meet myself on the page and start to notice and build and sort of maintain an awareness of what thoughts are churning around.

Heather Alice: Yeah.

Jessica: So I can just notice them and witness. Oh, you know, and then steer myself, and just see how I’m feeling because, you know, I think all of that is, ah, I’m losing the ability to articulate this morning, but it’s like, yeah. All of, it’s like having a, did you ever see “Inside Out?”

Heather Alice: Yes. Oh, I love that. Yeah.

Jessica: Like what the board, isn’t it? And it’s like, we have to stay connected to ourself in order to see what’s going on in that switchboard and then make conscious intentional choices about the belief systems that we want to adhere to, or subscribe to, because it’s all up for, you know, it’s a blank page we get to choose. We get to affirm. What’s possible for us.

Heather Alice: So journaling for you. And I know you have some journal prompts that go with the book, so we’ll make sure we have the link for that. Yeah, that I love how you said. I get to meet myself on the page. And look at the conversation we’re having with ourselves.

And then also the narrat- like, what did we just allow into our fields? Whose voice is it that we are internalizing? What are the systems, the people that are, we are allowing to say yes or no to specific things in our life, because if we’re operating from a place of like, oh, this isn’t possible for me, then how the hell are we gonna walk in our purpose?

How are we gonna live a dynamic life? Because I think one of the, kind of, one of the characteristics of that is that it is gonna be way bigger than anything. Like, I I’m sure. Well, I don’t know maybe, but probably. Like when you were 12, you weren’t sitting back going, you know what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna interview Mariah Carey in a penthouse one day.

Like you can’t make up, you can’t dream up this. Like, reality is so much stranger than fiction. I was telling my husband that, right? Like you can’t make up the things that actually happen in reality. Like you said, there’s this magic in us. So you can’t make it up when that magic is invoked. It’s so much bigger than anything you could ever.

Jessica: Oh, yes.

Heather Alice: Yeah.

Jessica: I love that you said that because the other thing that evolved for me through that blessing of a period with my dad and I don’t mean of him passing, but we’re all gonna pass, you know, but how. I got to experience that and what it emerged through me was discovering, oh my goodness.

You know, it’s, you can have these big beautiful, but I’ve had a big, beautiful life beyond anything I could have expected or anyone else could. And yet the things that have been more magnificent, I haven’t controlled. I haven’t made happen. They’ve happened, they’ve come outside of the plan. And when I’ve let go of that grip on the steering wheel of my life, and it’s like, you know, often our own plan for our life is a distraction from who we are truly here to be, which is so much more beautiful than anything we could inte- you know, intellectually plan or vision.

Heather Alice: I’m gonna make you a graphic that says your plan for your life is a distraction from what your real purpose is. That’s so powerful and so true. The thing that your mind is spinning out on that’s telling you is probably is not the thing. It actually is a distraction. I completely agree with that. I see it.

I see it in my own life. I see it in my friend. You know, everybody that I know you can see that right. It really is the surrender. It’s the, I think the word surrender comes up for me a lot as I’m listening, you know, to what you’re saying. It’s do we have the courage, you know, to allow our life to be guided by a force or a purpose, you know, beyond and bigger than ourselves.

And, you know, again, the key to that is to the feeling of it, which takes a lot, a lot of courage. Absolutely. So let’s fast forward today. Talk to us about the work that you’re doing with your clients. So now you’re helping people walk that purpose-driven life and get visible. Tell me what you’re excited about and what you love about what you’re doing today and your business and how you’re helping other people embrace this way of life.

Jessica: I’m excited about all of it. I was just thinking yesterday, you know, there’s nothing, you know, I could make billions of pounds and I can’t think of anything else I’d be doing beyond, you know, like in terms of how I’m currently serving, like yeah. And that’s such a blessing to be able to say that.

 So yeah, I work with people one to one and I have the Purpose Academy, which is more business-focused. So that’s for purpose-driven, small business owners, and it’s a six-month journey of helping them to embrace visibility from the inside out. And that’s such a powerful community doing that work in tandem with other women who are also, you know, tru- having to trust and draw on that courage to allow themselves to be seen because that’s really scary for a lot of us to truly seen without dilution, you know, how are we being our most fully expressed self?

And then the purpose retreat is annual and that’s here in Jamaica. So I get to have people come and just have it a week of presence to really connect back to themself and make choices from that space that are aligned.

 And then bigger than a book, I help people to write their book, whether it’s for publishing purposes or just for the joy of the process.

Heather Alice: Mm-hmm.

Jessica: And that’s like a zoom course over three months and it’s very powerful. It’s bigger than the book, you know, hence the name, so, yeah.

Heather Alice: Yeah, yeah. Wow. I mean, talk about taking your story and turning it into something that you be that you get to benefit from? I really think our lives are a testament to why we are here. Right. It is bigger than ourselves, but I also think it’s, we maybe underestimate the fact that we are supposed to be beneficiaries of our own purpose.

Jessica: Yeah.

Heather Alice: We’re supposed to receive the blessing of, like you just said. Wow. It’s a massive blessing to get to say, take all the pounds out of it. I wouldn’t change what I’m doing for the world, because I’ve taken my own personal journey, my own personal story, and made it an homage and a monument that other people can use to find their way through the dark and into the light.

So, that’s really beautiful. And I share your love of that of spending my time in my day, doing that. I can’t imagine. Like, what else are we here for? But to help other, to be seen, to be witnessed, to tell our stories, and to understand that those stories are really important.

And you know, your willingness to talk about your dad has changed my life here today. I can tell you in this moment, as of us recording it, it’s so impactful, right? I like who we are is the greatest thing we’re ever gonna offer the world. So it’s really cool that you’re, I just think it’s brilliant what you’re doing, in terms of your work, helping people share their story and get visible.

So, okay. Parting words of wisdom for anyone who is a little scared to tell their story, a little scared to be seen, maybe a little scared to meet themselves on the page. What words of love can you give them to help them get started? That little nudge that’s letting them know what might be possible for them. What would you say?

Jessica: The rewards on the other side of being courageous enough to, yeah, to really meet yourself, you know, to meet yourself on the page and then in life and allow that your essence to, you know, there’s a track that I love at the moment. I think it’s Tony Jones and she says, we are the vision board, right?

Heather Alice: Mm.

Jessica: How get to be an expression of all of the things that light us up and the only way that we can actualize that and have that become real is by getting to know and remembering what feels good for us. And so picking up your pen each morning, before you let the world in and check your phone and starting that homecoming really to yourself is the most fulfilling, delicious, testing adventure that you can embark on, but the rewards are beyond anything. So.

Heather Alice: Mm-hmm. I love that. Let the magic in. That’s what I’m hearing in my mind. Just let the magic in, right? Yeah. As you get in touch with yourself, you’ll let the magic in. It’s great.

Okay. So I wanna just encourage everybody to get the book check show notes. If you would like to buy Purpose: Find Your Truth and Embrace Your Calling. Jessica’s website is Jessica Huie. It’s H U I E.com. And you can also find her on Instagram, you can look at her beautiful pictures. You are drop dead gorgeous, by the way sister. I was looking. How, how tall are you? I’m gonna digress for a moment. How tall are you?

Jessica: I am five, eight and a half.

Heather Alice: Yeah, you’re so tall. Oh my gosh. I was looking at your pictures. I’m like, oh, she’s so statuesque. So beautiful. So, yeah, check out the book it’s available on Amazon and you can also pop over to Jessica’s Instagram and her website for more information. And if you would like to start a journaling practice, she does have a freebie where you can, it’s kind of like in tandem with the book where you can begin a journaling practice based off of concept in her book purpose.

Jessica, thank you so much for sharing your incredible story and your wisdom with us on the show.

Jessica: Thank you. Thank you so much. Sweet. All right. Take care. Bye.

Heather Alice: Bye.